..people that talk endlessly and don’t say anything?
Because I do, they really get up my fucking nose, seriously, I could gouge their eyes out and subject them to some intimate skull penetration.
Here’s my brief guide to staying healthy in my presence:
1) DO NOT patronise me – I am not stupid, I am not close to stupid, don’t even think you are smarter than me
2) If I ask you a question, ANSWER IT, don’t skirt around the issue, talk for 15 minutes and leave me with the same question after 15 minutes of wasted time
3) If you have something to say, say it, don’t ask me leading questions about justifying my statements, because I will justify them and you’ll end up feeling even more stupid
4) Don’t assume you know more than me about something just because I keep quiet as the case is I probably do know more about it than you, I just don’t flash it around because that’s just childish and insecure
Seriously I really can’t stand it when I ask someone a question and they blah blah blah blah yeah I’m so smart omg look at me blah blah blah blah, and end up saying abso-fucking-lutely nothing vaguely useful at all.
After they stop I just say “Yeah well, that’s not what I asked, I just want to know…”
Repeat the process 5 times…..Shaolin still hasn’t gotten an answer, RAGE 506% GROWTH STOMP ATTACK MUST KILL PUNY HUMANS KAKAKAK
Yeah something like that, I just resign myself to the fact I’m not going to get an answer, and as usual I’ll have to work it out myself.
I also hate having to do things at the last minute, I mean sometimes I choose to do things at the last minute, but well that’s my choice isn’t it?
But forcing me to pick up stuff on the fly, produce presentations at the last minute..it’s bullshit quite frankly.
I’m pissed today, I’ll be pissed tommorow, I’ll probably be permanently pissed til December 31st when this bullshit is over.
Maybe I’m just a control freak, I like to be in control, I like to know everyone knows what they are doing, everyone knows what they are talking about, everyone is prepared and ready to go.
Or maybe it’s my Boy Scout instincts from back in the day..
Be Prepared.Or perhaps I’m a perfectionist, so I hate not knowing the answers to questions..
Or perhaps perhaps perhaps.
Perhaps I shouldn’t be so harsh on people, perhaps I should just tow the line, perhaps I should control my temper and superiority complex..
I’m scared people might discover my plot to take over the world…damnit that’s a secret.
And yeah, I’d love some Cheese with this Whine.
Bah, it sucks, that’s the moral of the story.
can i say, ditto?
but i’ll never be smarter than you. you sexy brainiac *unf *unf
Yeah, ditto to that. It’s almost the same shit I’m going thru.
So, time for a long vacation no? cheers then!
er… are you in Brunei now?
wait wait, that’s just an innocent question ok? No implication lah…
I’ve been hit with this guy-churns-out-totally-ambiguous-shit phenomenon before. I hated it.
Chill dude, chill. Go have a drink or a roti canai.
Nah thankfully not yet, still in KL 🙂
Oh Dear – try being a ethnic minority in Britain? . The brits do the same – they look at you as if you’re stupid even though you’ve mastered their lingo!!! And even better they patronise you by twisting things around to suit their needs. Pardon me maybe you’re not like dat but the majority are unfortunately
And try dealing with your local council or Tony Blair – “I also hate not knowing answers to questions” I hate it when the train fares & council tax goes up, increase in crime rates and I have to wait 5 hours in agony to see a doctor in the NHS and Mr Blair not giving me an answer. You’re true Brit even out of Britain you still “Moan”. The great classic British need to moan about everything – apparently is good because you need to get it out of your clogged system and run to the pub !!!!
‘…really get up my fucking nose, seriously, I could gouge their eyes out ….’
*evilgrinz*
*gives ST a claws-sharpener*
*stands back, camera in hand*
“.. RAGE 506% GROWTH STOMP ATTACK MUST KILL PUNY HUMANS KAKAKAK ”
CHEEBAI!!!!!!!!
ppl can’t communicate well ma….
know it’s frustrating sometimes…
throw them all ur ying yang principles, make it balance looo..
🙂
time to have some sex?
I like this entry… its like seeing the other side of you.. the way you discribe your feeling, your though are very visible.. like.. I’m in your place… I think, Ms Beerbabe probably right.. you need to get laid… Cheers ST
This is quite an interesting entry. Perhaps you are too hard on yourself – and perhaps you are expecting too much of people around
you.
Perhaps you need to take anger management classes.
Perhaps you need to talk more so you needn’t listen to so much crap.
Perhaps – you just need to let go and enjoy the chaos. 🙂
u just wasted my 5 minutes reading this without telling me anything new. diu.
also, don’t always leave the house last minute or 30 minutes late when meeting us up, cipet. hehe.
cheers and be merry
I’ve met someone like that before, and he’s the head of a very popular international company that makes computers and portable music players (The Malaysian branch, of course. Not the boss of the HQ in Cupertino)…
But this time, it’s the other way round. He’d ask you something, and I tell him honestly what my opinion is and he goes, “So, what you’re saying is X” when what I really said is ‘Y’.
Example:
CEO: So, what’s your opinion of our market in Malaysia?
Me: Basically, I think you guys should absorb the costs a bit more – your computers are far too expensive here.
CEO: Yes, our pricing is very competitive here.
Me: ?
CEO: You see, we’re all about the overall user experience. Not just the specs – our strength is in software, and none of our competitors can match that.
Me: Yes, but I…
CEO: Actually that’s a very good point you brought up. That’s why we’ve opened XXXXXCentres in strategic places, such as Ikano and 1Utama.
Me: Listen, what I’m saying is that it’s a little silly that your computers are about 15% more expensive in Malaysia than in Singapore. Since computers and MP3 players are tax free, why is it that…
CEO: Exactly.
Me:?
CEO: We value our customers, that’s why we give them the best synergy of choice and ease-of-use. Both the Singaporean and Malaysian markets are important to us.
Me: But… but…
CEO: Here, have some more tea.
Actually, he’s more like a pointy-haired boss – doesn’t listen to you, tells you what you think and later thanks you for such wonderful insight.
“But forcing me to pick up stuff on the fly, produce presentations at the last minute…”
_______________________
blah blah blah…..
Me: “when do you want it?”
Boss: “yesterday”
My apologies for bringing up Jungian personality types again, but this is a classic Melancholic versus Sanguine problem.
Melancholics (of which a lot of IT people belong to) do JUST NEED THE FACTS.
The Sanguine is very much the ‘look at me, look at me’ type person who will try to make themselves seem superior to all if it gets the required attention.
So what you are describing is the classic polar opposite communication problem which occurs when these two types have to communicate.
The Sanguine being self focused and the Melancholic being focused on what needs to be fixed.
And in this case, it usually is the Sanguine who should buckle under and just give the Melancholic the facts. BUT, knowing you are dealing with a Sanguine might help the situation. You know they’ll always beat around the bush in order to draw attention to themselves – try to ask them closed questions that they can only answer YES or NO to. (Yeah, they will somehow turn it into a monologue – try anyway).
Hope that is useful.
[And please excuse me if I beat around the bush a little – that’s a Phlegmatic response trying to ensure no ones feelings get hurt along the way.]
What’s a Jungian???
My brain matter seems to have died. I keep getting lost when reading other people’s comments.
Its time to sit down and brush up on general knowledge and english 🙁
Any of those RAGE pills on sale? Using those to smash up the office would be good.: /
Imagine last minute demands where someone asks you to produce some stuff in 20 minutes, then takes 1 day to get back to you on it then blamesyou for holding things up.
Classic.
iesnek – Carl Jung was one of the forefathers of modern Psychology. Where as Freud was obsessed by sex and thought everyone else was, Jung was … well, balmy in his own way.
But, after saying that, both of them (Jung and Freud) have laid some very good foundations for understanding the human psyche.
In the case of Jung, one of the things he did was identify four personality types – Choloric, Melancholic, Phlegmatic and Sanguine.
The Choloric and Sanguine are extroverts, the Melancholic and Phlegmatic are introverts.
The Choloric and Melancholic are more FACT based. (Or reality based), the Sanguine and Phlegmatic are more FEELING oriented (in the case of he Sanguine, their own feelings!) 🙂
Cholorics are basically ACTION people (to throw it into one word). They like things to be happening and get quite frustrated if things aren’t (and in lot of cases, they need it done almost immediately and in the way they say it should be done.)
They tend to get a lot done, but in some cases it is a lot of spinning of wheels, as they dont’ care how it gets done and when it’s done wrong they sometimes have to do it again.
Sanguines are more PARTY people. But they love attention to be focused on them and if the focus changes to someone else, they have to jump up and down or do something stupid in order to get the spot light back.
Melancholics are planners. They think deep and you wouldn’t want to argue with one, as they are most likely right. That said, they have poor people skills and often their message gets lost along the way, as sometimes things will seem like a personal attack by them, when really, they’re just interesed in diseminating the facts.
Phlegmatics are FEELY People – often friendly and always concerned for others, they often act as the diplomats between warring factions. That said, they often cause more problems than they fix by trying to please everyone and make sure everything runs smooth and no one gets upset. (Which is sure to p*** off the other personality types as the choloric just wants things to happen, the melancholic is concerned that things are not being done right, and the sanguine wants to take all the credit).
Needless to say, most people are NOT completely one of these personality types, but are made up of combinations of all four. However, most people have one dominating personality type and that usually comes through.
Some people can have personalities with more than one type in close percentage, [So they will appear to be 50/50 almost] but that’s a little more rare, rarer still is the person with three types [Which I happen to be, though my subconscious has a very phlegmatic nature, but my conscious is Phlegmatic, Melancholic and Sanguine in that order with one percentage difference]. Rarest of all, is someone who is almost balanced between all four personality types. These type of people make great managers, as they are able to communicate to all their workers as they can appeal to their personailities nature.
Hope that all makes sense.
The usefulness of understanding whcih personality type someone is, is it allows you to communicate more effectively to them, and causes less friction.
In ST’s case, just give him the facts, don’t worry about ‘feelings’ or ‘attention’ or trying to ‘force something to happen NOW’ [which would be the mistakes the three other types would make]. He comes across as pretty much the melancholic.
In my case (a Phlegmatic dominant), if somethings going to happen, you have to ensure that I know that no one is getting hurt by whatever.
In the case of the Sanguine, well, just tell them how damn good they look … they really don’t give a HOOT about others.
In the case of the Choloric, you need to make sure that they understand that action is being taken (or will be in the near future).
That’s why ST (as a dominant Melancholic personality) would have trouble with the sort of person he is describing (Sanguine), as he is more FACT BASED, INTROVERT, while the Sanguine is the exact opposite, they are more interested in their own fiction and image.
It’s a lot more complex than that, and I had been planning for months on writing a post in my blog about it – but looks like I covered it all.
Hope that is easy enough to understand. If anyone would like to add something – my commentary probably has a bit of bias against Cholorics and Sanguines. 🙂
Sorry for taking up valuable bandwidth again ST.